Re: Saudi oil field declines.

From: wallyshoes <>
Date: Thu Apr 29 2004 - 00:13:23 EDT

Is it always all "gloom and doom" with you, Glenn?

I personally cannot see any salvation except for a return to the life spans
of over 150 years ago. Fewer populace, lower technology and the return to a
simpler life.

Right now, we live longer, suffer more and life "sucks" at the end! Whoopee!

Fusion is NOT going to happen -- so we have to live with it!

Better is to go back to from whence we came (IMHO)


Glenn Morton wrote:

> This week's Oil and Gas Journal has an article on a world oil production
> capacity model (Wocap). The author of the article is Samsam Bakhtiari,
> who is with the Iranian National Oil co. in Tehran. The model predicts
> that world oil production will peak around 2006-2007 at 81 million
> barrels per day give or take a million b/d or so. They say a couple of
> things that scare me.
> "Under no scenario (even the most exotic ones) could the Wocap
> model be simulated to peak after 2008-a date that really seems to be the
> ultimate terminus ad quem." A. M. Samsam Bakhtiari, "World Oil
> Production Capacity Model Suggests Output Peak by 2006-2007," Oil and
> Gas Journal, April 26, 2004, p. 18
> While lots of models have indicated different dates for peak oil, most
> are concentrated in this decade. There is even an outside possibility
> that the world could peak this year.
> But the most scarey thing was the last paragraph below. The decline
> rates of the Saudi fields. The background of this passage is that Matt
> Simmons, a major oil industry investment banker, gave a paper in
> February about the sorry state of Saudi fields. More and more experts
> are coming to the conclusion that Simmons is correct. Bakhtiari is one
> of them:
> "As for Saudi Aramco's defense of its future oil potential, it
> simply cannot be taken seriously, as it is now highly doubtful that
> their oil fields can hold their own during the present decade. Some
> Saudi Aramco officers, such as Mahmoud Abdul-Baqi, vice president,
> exploration, and Nansen Saleri, manager, reservoir management, are still
> sanguine about future potential, as the latter declared: 'Saudi Arabia
> could easily achieve and sustain a production of 10 million b/d through
> to 2054.'"
> "If Saleri is correct, then Simmon's thesis and the Wocap
> scenarios are good for history's dustbin; there is an unbridgeable gap
> between his half a century and a mere decade (at best). But,
> fortunately, some Saudi officers are much more prudent than their
> above-mentioned colleagues.
> "One of them is Saudi Aramco's senior vice-president for
> exploration, Abdullah Al-Seif, who reportedly told an interviewer in
> December 2003: 'There is a need for 800,000 b/d [of] new capacity to
> maintain [the] current level of 10 million b/d...[as]the decline in
> [Saudi] oil fields ranges between 5% and 12%." ." A. M. Samsam
> Bakhtiari, "World Oil Production Capacity Model Suggests Output Peak by
> 2006-2007," Oil and Gas Journal, April 26, 2004, p. 19-20
> A 12% decline rate means that in 5 years a field is producing half of
> what it produces today. A 5% decline will, in five year's time, result
> in a field producing only 77% of what it produces today.
> This information is consistent with what I heard personally from
> reservoir engineers who have worked the Saudi fields and which I posted
> here earlier.

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exist true but not provable statements.
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If you have already found the truth
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