Re: Full disclosure (was Grand Canyon Tears America Apart )

From: George Murphy <>
Date: Fri Jan 23 2004 - 22:08:54 EST

Glenn Morton wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Davis []
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:25 AM
> > Babinski does leave me with the impression that, having rejected a rather
> > unreflective and probably inherited Christian fundamentalism, he is now a
> > rather unreflective fundamentalist of another type. This is as I say an
> > impression, one that I would of course be willing to abandon upon the
> > production of further evidence.
> Maybe, but the reason he left the faith (and YEC) was that he believed that
> the Bible was factually false. Regardless of whether or not you think he is
> right in his assessment, I don't see that as the issue at hand. We were
> speaking of what causes YECs to leave. One of the major reasons, I contend,
> is that they find the apologetical arguments weak and therefore come to
> believe in the factual untruth of scripture.

        & that may be traced to the fact that they are told (implicitly or explicitly)
from their first experiences with Christianity that the truth of Christianity is
dependent upon the truth of early Genesis as accurate historical narrative. & if that
equation is maintained, the only possible responses when YEC is challenged are (1)
denial, (2) concordism, or (3) apostasy.
        Of those (2) is certainly preferable. But one is constrained to those choices
only by the original premise.
        & here anyone who wishes can go back to the archives & reply all our old tapes.


George L. Murphy
Received on Fri Jan 23 22:11:35 2004

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