Science and Spirit (was Re: Giberson & Yerxa vs Numbers #2)

From: Dr. Blake Nelson <>
Date: Sat Jan 03 2004 - 22:04:49 EST

This is tangentially related since Giberson is the
editor of Research News &c. (which has changed its
name) and a contributor to (or has some more august
role possibly) to Science & Spirit since they are both
under the auspices of the Templeton Foundation.

Has anyone noticed an "editorial" shift in Science &
Spirit of late? I had not read it in several months
and pick up the latest issue and Giberson has some of
the same inaccurate science vs. religion quotes as
Michael Roberts posted to this list in a sidebar piece
(which took up an entire page) and does nothing in his
piece on Penrose -- to which it was a sidebar -- to
correct the fact that a significant percentage of them
are outright lies, including the Calvin quote Michael

Now, Science & Spirit had at least had a vague
theistic vibe in my prior readings, but the last issue
seemed to lurch into the conflict metaphor,
traditional religions are rather wrong-headed, theism
is a little too confining, etc... now, perhaps, I was
a bit nonplussed by some of the interview with
Goodenough, combined with the inaccurate conflict
quotes that were reported as if they were accurate, as
an accompaniment to the Penrose/Giberson piece, but
this issue seemed different from the earlier issues I
had read.

Did anyone else read the thing and have any thoughts?

BTW, if Giberson was as careful in his book as with
those science v. religion quotes (which means not at
all since I did not see where he said which ones were
bunk), I wouldn't bother with it. Of course, I have
generally liked some other things I have read by him
in Research News (now named something else).

--- Joel Moore <> wrote:
> Sorry I sent off the message without finishing it.
> Has anybody read Lindberg & Numbers' _When Science &
> Christianity
> Meet_? Are there any other books on the topics of
> origins/earth
> history and theologies of creation (I'm planning to
> read Henri
> Blocher's _In the Beginning_ and am thinking about
> reading
> Bonhoeffer's _Creation & Fall_) that people would
> recommend? I'll
> probably be involved in discussions of the topic in
> the near future
> and wanted to read some more before then.
> Thanks,
> Joel
> >Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:18:52 -0500
> >To:
> >From: Joel Moore <>
> >Subject: Giberson & Yerxa vs Numbers
> >Cc:
> >Bcc:
> >X-Attachments:
> >
> >I own Ronald Numbers' _The Creationists_ and am
> thinking about
> >purchasing Giberson & Yerxa's _The Species of
> Origins_. What are the
> >similarities and differences between the two books?
> How will reading
> >_The Species_ add to my knowledge of the topic?
> >
> >Thanks for any input,
> >Joel
> >
> >
> --
> Joel Moore
> 315 Hosler Building
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> (814) 863-8055

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