From: Michael Roberts (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2003 - 08:09:46 EDT
A good lawyer will say why they disagree and provide evidence .
So why do you disagree?
I tis impossible to summarise the nonsense on the ICR and AIG websites -
there's so much
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From: "Jay Willingham" <email@example.com>
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Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
> I must disagree.
> Error begets and aids error.
> "That's not my department, says Werner von Braun..." Tom Lehrer.
> Jay Willingham
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> > Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
> > > The concepts that man is the end product of gradual mutation from
> > the
> > > primates gives enormous support to those people who think their own
> > is
> > > superior to someone else's.
> > 1) that is classic "naturalistic fallacy" and if I am not
> > mistaken, someone just posted a long excerpt about
> > the "naturalistic fallacy"
> > 2) Who says evolution says that? Progess is an idea
> > that is outwith evolutionary theory proper. If someone
> > is talking about progress, that has to be coming from
> > an external philosophical or religious stance.
> > 3) Plenty of ideas are compatible with racism, some
> > "creationist" and some "evolutionist". The racism
> > comes from outside. Read in particular the forward
> > and chapter one of the 1996 printing of _Mismeasure
> > of Man_. Polygenism arose without the help of any
> > ideas about evolutionary "progress", during a time
> > when most were creationists, indeed it precedes
> > Darwin.
> > Racist people are racist. They will justify it with
> > science, scripture, or whatever else they can get their
> > hands on.
> > In short. That's an unjustified slander that is all too often
> > used to denigrate evolutionary theory.
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