Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

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Date: Sat Sep 27 2003 - 19:06:30 EDT

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    From: "Jay Willingham" <>
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    Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:11 PM
    Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

    > The concepts that man is the end product of gradual mutation from other
    > primates gives enormous support to those people who think their own race
    > superior to someone else's.

    1) that is classic "naturalistic fallacy" and if I am not
    mistaken, someone just posted a long excerpt about
    the "naturalistic fallacy"

    2) Who says evolution says that? Progess is an idea
    that is outwith evolutionary theory proper. If someone
    is talking about progress, that has to be coming from
    an external philosophical or religious stance.

    3) Plenty of ideas are compatible with racism, some
    "creationist" and some "evolutionist". The racism
    comes from outside. Read in particular the forward
    and chapter one of the 1996 printing of _Mismeasure
    of Man_. Polygenism arose without the help of any
    ideas about evolutionary "progress", during a time
    when most were creationists, indeed it precedes

    Racist people are racist. They will justify it with
    science, scripture, or whatever else they can get their
    hands on.

    In short. That's an unjustified slander that is all too often
    used to denigrate evolutionary theory.

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