From: Steve Petermann (email@example.com)
Date: Fri Sep 26 2003 - 13:26:36 EDT
Anyone have some suggestions for short hand terminology of evolutionary
"Non-telic gradualists" for those who reject both punctuated equilibrium and
"Non-telic non-gradualists" Gouldians.
"Weak Telic gradualists" for cosmic front-loaded teleology, perhaps Howard's
"Strong Telic gradualists" who opt for embedded(quantum based?) continuous
intelligent design but no heavy handed supernaturalism.
"Strong Telic supernaturalists"
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Subject: RE: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
> You are correct. I almost included that in my original post. There was a
> bit of name-calling about who was a believer in "Darwinism." Those who
> emphasized the non-gradualistic mechanisms were harassed about their
> beliefs, and they responded that they really did believe in "Darwinism"
> because of they saw a role for selection in their scenarios.
> Because of these messy definitions, it is important to examine what a
> means in using the word "Darwinism." Does "Defeating Darwinism" mean that
> you defeat "evolution?" Of course not, but people who are trained in
> twisting meanings take advantage of this confusion.
> Jim Behnke firstname.lastname@example.org
> Asbury College
> Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 x 2232
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> From: Robert Schneider [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:55 AM
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> Subject: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
> Jim writes:
> > Generally, when we describe someone as a "Darwinian," we are saying that
> > they believe that gradualism and selection are the important features in
> > evolutionary process. It seems that ecologists tend to be hard-core
> > Darwinian.
> > Non-Darwinian biologists view drift, founder effects, macromutations
> > with multiple effects) and similar processes as the important mechanisms
> > an evolutionary pathway. S.J. Gould popularized this in the punctuated
> > equilibrium model.
> > Jim Behnke firstname.lastname@example.org
> > Asbury College
> > Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 x 2232
> Thanks, Jim. I'm grateful for this statement. But a query. Do not such
> phenomena as gene flow, genetic drift, founder effect, etc., still depend
> some way on selection, as in the establishment of a new population in a
> environment (e.g., migration to an island), even though the rate of
> evolutionary change may be much more than gradual? Help me out in
> understanding and clarifying this point.
> Bob Schneider
> (Berea College ex-patriate now in Boone, NC)
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