Re: Bombey

From: Robert Schneider (
Date: Mon Sep 22 2003 - 19:57:34 EDT

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    Hi, Burgy,

        The Cathars were also known as the Albigensians, after the city of Albi
    in southern France, then the independent Kingdom of Provence, which was one
    of their chief cities. A French army with papal blessing went after these
    Gnostic/Manichaean Chrisitans in the early 13th century. In the early 14th
    c. Jacques Fournier, Bishop of Paniers, decided to hold an inquisition to
    stamp out the Cathars in the French Pyrenees village of Montaillou. The
    surviving records of the inquisition provided much of the data for a
    fascinating study of this village by French historian Emmanuel LeRoy
    Ladurie: _Montaillou. The Promised Land of Error_. Ladurie is of the
    "annales" school of French medieval historians; they studied the lives of
    ordinary people, looked at history from the bottom up. This book is a
    fascinating read, which I recommend to you and others.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John W Burgeson" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:09 PM
    Subject: Bombey

    > I was asked off line what I meant by "Bombey." I appreciate Jan's
    > admonition to define new terms; my apologies.
    > Bombey (or Bomby) is the story of the Bombardier beetle. It was a YEC
    > mainstay GOG (God of the Gaps) argument 20 or 30 years ago. Duane Gish
    > started it, when he mistranslated a German text. It is a typical GOG
    > argument; Bombey mixes two chemicals together to squirt an acid spray at
    > a hungry predator. No way known to "evolve" to that specific biological
    > technology -- ergo special creation. I think Gish quit using it after
    > getting embarrassed at a debate -- but ICR keeps on publishing a child's
    > version anyway.
    > Which seems dishonest to me. But I'm sure they have their reasons.
    > Such actions are a large part of why ICR is called the "Liars for Jesus"
    > organization on my Compuserve forum.
    > BTW -- the sect which espoused the idea that Jesus & Mary Mag were
    > married and had kids together was, I think, the Cathars. Their name in
    > French is probably something similar to that.
    > Burgy
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