RE: royalty

From: Glenn Morton (
Date: Sat Sep 20 2003 - 22:04:07 EDT

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    Ok, I misused medieval. sorry. I would bet, though that had Galileo not
    recanted, he would have faced the fire.

    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Ted Davis []
    >Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 9:01 PM
    >Subject: Re: royalty
    >Bob is right, no one was burned for advocating heliocentrism. Indeed, no
    >one believed it, basically, prior to Copernicus (who first circulated his
    >ideas c. 1510 and published them in full finally in 1543). Actually the
    >only clear exception I can think of at the moment was Aristarchus of Samos,
    >from antiquity.
    >As for Giordano Bruno, who was indeed burned in 1600, he was executed for
    >various theological heresies such as denying the trinity. It is true that
    >he upheld a heliocentric view, mainly for "mystical" reasons--he wanted a
    >new religion that included what we might describe loosely as "sun worship,"
    >if I recall correctly. The charges against him included (for example): he
    >taught that Moses and Christ were magicians; that stars have
    >souls; and that
    >there are an infinite number of worlds (an idea influenced by
    >though not an idea Coperncius endorsed). Furthermore, he called for the
    >English to throw out Elizabeth and the French to throw out Henry, so he had
    >dogs on his heels in many places for lots of reasons. If the English had
    >caught him, no doubt, no one would remember him as an alleged "Martyr for
    >It is much more accurate to say, that Bruno's execution (for
    >heresy) tainted
    >helicentrism by association, than to say that heliocentrism tainted Bruno,
    >let alone caused his premature death.
    >Prior to Galileo's observations and arguments for Coperncius from
    >there were fewer than one dozen Copernicans since 1543. Bruno is the only
    >one who was executed or even charged with heresy. And of course the church
    >*encouraged* Copernicus to publish his ideas, the Pope even invited him to
    >come down to Rome at one point to talk about his stuff.

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