RE: YEC Invasion

From: Stephen J. Krogh, P.G. (
Date: Fri Sep 19 2003 - 16:48:46 EDT

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    I am forwarding this message to Christopher Sharp, Ph.D. - Astrophysics. I
    don't know if he is still subscribed to the ASA listserv. He may have some
    information regarding these men. Christopher had worked at Sandia Labs and
    may have some personal knowledge

    Stephen J. Krogh, P.G.
    The PanTerra Group
    Environmental Consultants

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: []On
    > Behalf Of Ted Davis
    > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:22 AM
    > To:;
    > Subject: Re: YEC Invasion
    > In connection with a course I teach here called "Issues in Science and
    > Religion," we might have a creationist speaker on campus. (The parents of
    > one of my students have offered to pay the costs associated with
    > this, it's
    > a very nice offer I'm inclined to accept. I believe that students usually
    > benefit when they see widely diverse views on the same issues.)
    > As for which people, that's not clear yet. The suggestion has been made
    > (by the patron in this case) that it might be Russell Humphreys or John
    > Baumgardner, both physicists currently or formerly associated with Sandia
    > Labs in New Mexico. (The patron lives in New Mexico and knows
    > these men.)
    > I know about both, mainly from web sources, and I've heard of both before.
    > Here's my question for the list:
    > Has anyone out there actually heard either of these men speak?
    > If so, what
    > is your overall impression/response? Do they present the case for YEC
    > fairly (in your judgement), or do they come off as "snake-oil"
    > salesmen as
    > some creationist speakers do? How open are they to criticism of their
    > views? How honest about the views they defend and those of their
    > opponents?
    > We aren't planning this as a debate, simply a presentation with lots of
    > Q&A, including Q&A from the course faculty (there are three of
    > us). Before
    > we set something up, we want to know more fully what we're
    > getting into with
    > specific speakers.
    > thanks,
    > ted

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