Re: Post-Empiricism Science: A little surprised

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Wed Sep 17 2003 - 10:12:52 EDT

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    Does that mean that evolution is not a science? I
    have not heard of any predictive aspects of it.

    "Alexanian, Moorad" wrote:

    > Ancients used to explain eclipses and why the
    > sun rises but could not make predictions. The
    > essence of a scientific theory is the ability to
    > make predictions and not merely give
    > explanations, which is pure phenomenology.
    > Moorad
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    > In a message dated 9/17/03 1:46:31 AM Eastern
    > Daylight Time, writes:
    > The evolutionary paradigm is just as religious
    > and sacred as a Creationary
    > paradigm. The only difference is that the
    > evolutionary paradigm is based upon
    > and accepted by blind faith. It is blind
    > because it cannot be confirmed by
    > anyone who could know.
    > T. Kuhn wrote that the strength of a hypothesis
    > is in its explanatory value. The explanatory
    > value of evolutionary theory is so strong and
    > there is so much evidence for it that to dispute
    > it at this point is to dig your head in the
    > sand.
    > "If a paradigm is ever to triumph it must gain
    > some first supporters, men who will develop it
    > to
    > the point where hard headed arguments can be
    > produced and multiplied. And even those
    > arguments when they come are not individually
    > decisive.
    > Because scientists are reasonable men, one or
    > another argument will ultimately persuade many
    > of them. But there is no single argument that
    > can or should persuade them all. Rather than a
    > single group conversion, what occurs is an
    > increasing shift in the distribution of
    > professional
    > allegiances.
    > At the start, a new candidate for paradigm may
    > have few supporters, and on occasion the
    > supporters' motives may be suspect.
    > Nevertheless, if they are competent, they will
    > improve it,
    > explore its possibilities and show what it would
    > be like to belong to the community guided by
    > it. And as that goes on, if the paradigm is one
    > destined to win its fight, the number and
    > strength of the professional arguments in its
    > favor will increase.
    > More scientists will then be converted and the
    > exploration of the new paradigm will go on.
    > Gradually the number of experiments,
    > instruments, articles and books based upon the
    > paradigm will multiply. Still more men,
    > convinced of the new view's fruitfulness will
    > adopt the
    > new mode of practicing normal science, until at
    > last only a few elderly hold-outs remain.
    > Though the historian can always find men,
    > Priestley, for instance, who were unreasonable
    > to
    > resist for as long as they did, he will not find
    > a point at which resistance becomes illogical or
    > unscientific. At most he may wish to say that
    > the man who continues to resist after his whole
    > profession has been converted has ipso facto
    > ceased to be a scientist."
    > The Structure of
    > Scientific Revolutions, Thomas S. Kuhns
    > Chapter:
    > Resolution of Revolutions
    > rich faussette

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