Re: Logical Arguments Against God

From: Dr. Blake Nelson (
Date: Sat Sep 13 2003 - 16:57:54 EDT

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    Your commentary shows that unfortunately you have a
    very odd view of christianity.

    What a random person on the street says about
    christianity has a low probability of being what
    historically the tradition has held about

    Jesus' call is for the here and now, not a based on a
    promise of a life after this one -- although that is
    part of the eschatological hope of a christian.

    Perhaps, rather than painting your own particular (and
    peculiar) version of christianity, you should maybe
    start with what Jesus is reported to have said in the
    New Testament.

    Nothing you have written here or in any of your past
    posts, in my opinion, has any relationship to either
    traditional christian doctrine or what Jesus is
    reported to have said and done in the New Testament.

    All the best,

    --- Jim Eisele <> wrote:
    > Theodore writes
    > >1.) If the Christian God exists, he wants ALL
    > humans to know he exists.
    > >2.) If the Christian God exists, he knows what
    > evidences are sufficient
    > >for ALL to know that he exists.
    > >3.) Not ALL people believe in God.
    > >4.) God's evidences, thus far, are insufficient for
    > ALL to believe.
    > >5.) God either wants atheists to exist or there is
    > no God. (from 2,3 and
    > >4)
    > >(If God wants atheists to exist... why all the
    > threats of Hell and
    > >damnation in Christian theology?)
    > Let's face it. Christianity is a pretty good deal.
    > Sacrifice
    > in this life (some would say it is no sacrifice at
    > all) and get
    > eternal bliss.
    > There are a lot of people who sell a lot of things
    > in this world.
    > The world has known thousands of "gods." Any person
    > would choose
    > heaven over hell, if it really were a choice. Love
    > pleasure,
    > avoid pain. Pretty basic stuff.
    > Too many Christians are too willing to judge others.
    > Mental
    > contortions are widespread when Christians try to
    > justify hell.
    > Many just treat it as a metaphor.
    > Basically, those who believe in heaven or hell
    > insult the intelligence
    > of those of us who don't. You'd have to be
    > incredibly stupid to pass
    > on heaven or accept hell.
    > The saving grace of Christianity is that it is
    > indeed a belief. As
    > soon as evidence against outweighs evidence for,
    > you're free of
    > Christianity.
    > Sadly, Christianity employs mind control tactics to
    > prevent proper
    > questioning. Threats of displeasing God, and the
    > need to take every
    > thought captive to Christ are just two means to
    > stunt healthy questioning.
    > So, perhaps an emotional tirade may ensue, but I'm
    > gonna post this
    > anyway.
    > Jim

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