Date: Wed Sep 03 2003 - 14:46:41 EDT
In post http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200309/0031.html from the thread
RE: Van Till's Ultimate Gap Moorad wrote:
>Irrational numbers occur because of our
>over idealization of nature by the mathematical
>concepts we want to use for its description.
>The latter in the sense that our description of
>nature over idealizes the reality one is trying
>to describe in terms of human mental constructs
>that are related to but are not identical to
>what we want to describe.
This is really an assertion of Moorad's philosophical presuppositions, which
is fine. But one could just as well assert that Reality is fundamentally
mathematical. Indeed, Mathematics may well be the "divine language" of God's
Creation. It seems to me this is probably the most likely position to make
sense of the "unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics" which many great
minds have intuited, such as James Jeans, Einstein, Eugene Wigner, and even
atheist Bertrand Russell.
Here is a link to Wigner's article, with a quote from Russell, originally
published in _Communications in Pure and Applied Mathematics_:
The basic position I take is clearly articulated by the famous quote from
James Jeans' _Mysterious Universe_:
"From the intrinsic evidence of his creation, the Great Architect of the
Universe now begins to appear as a pure mathematician."
This is, of course, completely consistent with much of the traditional
Christian intuition found throughout most of Church history, from the
earliest times (e.g. Clement of Alexandria, Augustine, etc). Moreover, it is
not merely consistent with, but actually illustrative of, the fundamental
revelation of the Logos "by whom all things were made." This Numerical
hermeneutic used to be taught in many Christian universities. It fell out of
fashion with the rise of rationalism only in the last few centuries, along
with other valid hermeneutics such as Typology, Allegory, and so forth.
The fundamental reason for this seem to be the fact that the validity of
these traditional hermeneutics *requires* a rather high view of Scripture.
E.g. the introduction of Baptism and the Dove in Genesis 8 and Christ and
the Eucharist in Genesis 14 only makes real sense in light of God's
inspiration of Scripture. Otherwise, we merely have some convenient OT texts
that NT writers eisogetically forced into service of their man-made
And this is what prompted the title of this thread. Is it possible to
understand the profound - indeed seemingly supernaturally prescient - Types,
Allegories, and use of Numbers in the Holy Bible as the result of the
natural history of the text? Are not these traditional hermeneutics
extremely effective for both insight into and proof of Scripture? Is not the
effectiveness of these traditional hermeneutics "unreasonable?"
Richard Amiel McGough
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