Re: The forgotten verses

From: Michael Roberts (
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 17:32:32 EDT

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    Cant these verses be forgotten. I tis a waste of time discussing these matters. We ought to look at something which is more constructive for our faith.

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      From: Vernon Jenkins
      To: D. F. Siemens, Jr.
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      Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:31 PM
      Subject: Re: The forgotten verses


      You make the point "Genesis 1 is in no way a schedule or engineer's log of creation events."

      Pray tell us what you believe it to be.

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: D. F. Siemens, Jr.
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        Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:52 AM
        Subject: Re: The forgotten verses

        George is too careful a student of both scripture and science to adopt a concordist stance. Despite its popularity among OEC, it is about a messed up as YEC. Genesis 1 is in no way a schedule or engineer's log of creation events. Please be more careful of views you ascribe to others.

        On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:31:53 +0100 "Vernon Jenkins" <> writes:
          Let me now, for the sake of argument, accept your suggested parallel between the parable of the Good Samaritan and the Genesis 1 account of the Creation, viz that neither need be literally true to achieve its respective purpose in the divinely-inspired text. But if you believe the Creation narrative to be an accurate but _figurative_ account of what in reality is a theistic evolutionary process extending over aeons of time then, I suggest, there will be certain inevitable expectations, viz (1) a clear mapping of the written details onto significant events in this assumed process, and (2) a clear harmonisation of the orders in which those events occurred.

          Accordingly, how do you respond to the point that, according to Genesis 1, birds are created _before_ land animals (Gn.1: 20, 24)? Evolutionary theory, of course, requires that this order be reversed. Again, what is the evolutionary parallel to the 'division of the waters' (Gn.1:6,7)?

          Another problem arises in connection with the 6 days of creative activity followed by 1 day of rest. Clearly, these are important features in the Creation narrative. What would you say are the parallels in the evolutionary account?


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