Re: A response to Burgy

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 09:57:43 EDT

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    Agreed completely, Debbie. Forgive me if I implied that the church should not
    welcome sinners. That is what we all are and forgiveness is what we must seek
    and hopefully obtain.


    Debbie Mann wrote:

    > I cannot make the Bible say that homosexuality is not sinful. However, I
    > will not attend a church that does not welcome sinners. We all sin and come
    > short of the glory of God. In our own church, they would not be allowed to
    > become members while actively living in sin. However, they would most
    > certainly be welcome. God alone convicts. Faith cometh by hearing the word
    > of God. The most damning passage on homosexuality, in my opinion, in the
    > Bible is the one in Roman and it nails everyone for something and ends with
    > Romans 2:1 and the commandment to not judge. The church SHOULD set up
    > standards for members and certainly for officials. These standards should be
    > based on the Bible. However, the church should shun no one, NO ONE, who is
    > there in all sincerity - except where there is an issue of safety to the
    > members.
    > Visit the prisoners for in doing so you have done it unto me.
    > I'm sorry I don't have time to look up all my references. I'm fairly sure
    > you recognize them all anyway. Jesus sat at dinner with the sinners. I
    > imagine you know that not only was this against Jewish tradition but sharing
    > salt was a broader commitment throughout the region than anything we would
    > associate with eating a meal. And what was Jesus' reply when criticized? Who
    > needs a physician?
    > Faith, hope, love, these three, but the greatest of these is love.

    Walt Hicks <>

    In any consistent theory, there must
    exist true but not provable statements.
    (Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
    If you have already found the truth
    without it. (G.K. Chesterton)

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