From: Iain Strachan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat May 31 2003 - 14:19:49 EDT
Debbie writes a lot of sense here; it is the closing out of love that
concerns me, particularly in the bitterness and sarcasm with which Vernon's
observations are received.
I for one don't insist you have to believe all that or agree on all the
details to be a Christian. But when Michael writes something like:
> I get fed up with the superspirituality and offensiveness of people like
> who assume that those who dont support your silly myths of numerology and
> YEC have rejected the Bible.
.. then I seriously wonder how in the world you can call someone "offensive"
and then reply by being equally offensive yourself. Michael has frequently
on the list stated that he does not understand the maths behind Vernon's
theories. Therefore surely that position of ignorance does not qualify him
to state that the "numerology" is a "silly myth", and even if he was
qualified to suggest it was all wrong, then a reasoned argument is far more
persuasive than using perjorative language like that.
> I have tried to answer your questions but you simply have a closed mind
.. and the same is true for you, I'm afraid; I've repeatedly tried to reason
with you that this is something that it's reasonable to look into; that it's
part of my own personal journey etc. I have never suggested that you should
go along with it or that it or anything else was necessary for your
salvation. Not the slightest acknowledgement have I received from you on
this, nor any convincing argument why I should not pursue this, or indeed
seek to discuss it with a group of intelligent scientifically oriented
fellow Christians. But everytime the subject comes up, when there are
individuals on the group who have responded in an intelligent manner that
aids discussion, we don't get very far before you come out with one of your
nasty sarcastic statements, like the triangular olive leaves. I've tried
very hard not to close out the love aspect here, but it's all I can do at
the moment to close out the rising anger.
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