Re: Do non-U.S. Christians say "God Bless America?"

From: Graham E. Morbey (
Date: Tue May 27 2003 - 11:43:15 EDT

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    I can agree with Terry about a reading of "God Bless America" that sees
    it as a well meant prayer in keeping with Romans and 1 Timothy;
    something like " God, keep our land..." in O Canada. But American civil
    religion as Christian folk-religion, has a powerful ally when currency
    with "In God we Trust" and "God Bless America" are coupled in
    non-discriminating minds in a context that leans to over-zealous
    nationalism. Canadians have their own, less obvious brand of civil and
    Christian folk-religion. It may be that a perceived multiculturism helps
    to tone-down Canadian manifestations of civil religion while the
    melting-pot perception in the US abets it. And yet.... countries that
    acknowledge God openly have some elements of freedom going for them that
    others who banish God from their public conversations do not. And Jay is
    right about the way good and evil cut down the middle.


    Terry M. Gray wrote:

    > Joel,
    > Isn't "God Bless America" a prayer in keeping with Romans 13:1ff and 1
    > Timothy 2:1-2? You seem to suggest that what is meant by that is "God
    > is blessing America" ("America is God's country.") No doubt, that
    > sentiment exists, but I'd suggest that my reading is more in keeping
    > with Jay's and most people's intent.
    > Isn't it legitimate for Christian citizens of each nation to utter
    > such a prayer for their nation and their leaders? Of course, a
    > Christian's primary allegiance is to the Kingdom of God.
    > TG
    >> I am curious what non-U.S. citizens think of statements like this,
    >> which implicitly tie the gospel to "God Bless America."
    >> I find it to be a surprisingly clear manifestation of the national
    >> idolatry that characterizes too much of American (U.S.)
    >> Christianity. Why not just say "God is on our side" or "America is
    >> God's country" and be done with it?
    >> There are many things for an American citizen to be thankful for
    >> (much of which can be traced, ironically, to the Enlightenment). My
    >> post is not anti-American. However, the line between the good and the
    >> bad (or the Godly and the un-Godly) cuts right down the middle. Being
    >> Christian should encompass among other things telling the truth about
    >> the principalities and powers of this age; we are citizens of a
    >> different kingdom. Our belief that "Jesus is Lord" should mean that we
    >> do not worship America, the American ideal, or other things "of this
    >> world."
    >> Forwarded message:
    >>> From Mon May 26 13:56:26 2003
    >>> Message-ID: <000701c323ac$a40f0260$>
    >>> From: "Jay Willingham" <>
    >>> Save this one and most important thing,
    >>> God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that
    >>> those who
    >>> believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.
    >>> Remember those who have laid down their life for our freedom.
    >>> God bless America.
    >>> Jay Willingham, Esquire
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