Re: Guilt by association

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Mon May 12 2003 - 04:28:13 EDT

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    I would suggest that you read what I said and not what you think I said.

    Incidentally where is the evidence that Faraday was a young earther? And a
    good number of IDers are YEC.

    Michael
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Iain Strachan" <iain.strachan.asa@ntlworld.com>
    To: <mahaffy@mtcnet.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:58 PM
    Subject: Re: Guilt by association

    > James Mahaffy:
    >
    > > Roberts wrote:
    > > >
    > > > IDers are ambivalent on the age of the earth and many like
    > > > Johnson,Pearcy try to say that it is
    > > > not an important issue. By doing that they in fact swing the argument
    in
    > > > favour of YEC. After all
    > > > if all life is approx only 10,000years old then evolution by any means
    > > > (bar the miraculouis ) is
    > >
    > > Folks,
    > >
    > > As someone who is not ID but respects some of the IDer a bit more, let
    > > me differ with good vicar. I do NOT like adhominens and I do not like
    > > guilt by association. Both Behe and Johnson (but not some of the others
    > > in the ID camp) are not YEC but are old earthers. Behe in fact sees no
    > > problems with most of life originating by evolution.
    > >
    >
    > I couldn't agree more. It was perfectly clear to me on reading Behe's
    book
    > that he supports descent from a common ancestor, and that he believes the
    > earth is billions of years old. All the people in the ID camp I've
    > corresponded with whom I've asked are also in the Old Earth camp.
    >
    > To say that you're going to ignore perfectly sound mathematical arguments
    > just because some ID'ers are YEC doesn't make any sense at all.
    >
    > Michael, what were you thinking of? Are you to say that Newton's laws of
    > motion aren't worth considering because Newton was a crazy alchemist who
    > believed you could turn lesser elements into gold? Or that Faraday's laws
    > should be ignored because Faraday was a Young Earther (I think I read that
    > somewhere)?
    >
    > Completely baffled,
    >
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    >
    > 'Tis the majority in this, as all, prevail.
    > Assent, and you are sane -
    > Demur - you're straightway dangerous
    > And handled with a chain -
    > (Emily Dickinson).
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