From: Iain Strachan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon May 05 2003 - 16:11:49 EDT
Burgy wrote, in part:
> Vernon wrote: "Taking any multiple of 3 ...and summing the cubes of its
digits - repeating the process as many times as may be necessary to obtain a
final stable outcome - we find that outcome invariably to be 153."
> Interesting. Vernon has now shown three instances of an unexpected numeric
pattern in the scriptures.
> Either all three are just coincidental -- or there is something more
there. I remain unconvinced that anything more than coincidence is working
here. But three instances trumps two.
I think if there were just three instances of this kind of phenomenon, then
most people would dismiss it as coincidence. But it was Ivor
Grattann-Guinness who first pointed out all this to me & he is a good enough
mathematician to at least respect his opinion. One of his papers mentioned
the 153 fishes, the significance of which had previously passed me by. But
he also pointed out the fact that the key phrases (e.g. "Jesus", "Christ",
"Son of Man" ) were riddled with multiples of 37. His comment was that
"there were just too many examples to ignore". I certainly did ignore it &
try to pretend it wasn't there, because I didn't like the implications. As
I've said elsewhere, Vernon's web-site confronted me with the evidence & I
realised I just couldn't ignore it and maintain any sort of intellectual
integrity (having published stuff about the much-less-impressive numerics
of Shostakovich & had it recognized in academia).
On a slightly different tack, the following extract from the entry for 153
in the "Penguin Dictionary of Curious and Interesting Numbers" (David
Wells), may be of interest to the group:
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In the New Testament, the net that Simon Peter drwe from the sea of Tiberias
held 153 fishes. This was inevitably interpreted numerologically by the
early Church fathers, especially St. Augustine.
153 is the 17th Triangular number and therefore already significant. But
what is special about 17 itself? It is the sum of 10 for the Ten
Commandments of the Old Testament to 7, for the Gifts of the Spirit in the
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(it is not clear whether Wells's second paragraph is how St. Augustine
interpreted it, but I believe I've read elsewhere that St. Augustine pointed
out that it was the sum of the first seventeen integers).
Another literary allusion occurs in another great American poet's work. In
John Berryman's "Dream Songs" and sequel, number 153 starts (rather
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I'm cross with god who has wrecked this generation,
First he seized Ted, then Richard, Randall, and now Delmore,
In between he gorged on Sylvia Plath.
That was a first rate haul.
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The last line seems to refer to John 21:11. Very nasty allusion, since the
153 were (in some place I've read) supposed to symbolise the saved (as in
"Fishers of Men?"), and Berryman is talking about suicides. God eats the
people like fishes instead of saving them! The first book of "The Dream
Songs" won a Purlizer Prize and contained 77 songs. The sequel "His Toy;
His Dream, His Rest" continues the numbering straight on. It may be
significant that 77 is the middle number of 153 (=76+1+76).
According to Ivor Grattann-Guinness, 153 was regarded as a highly
significant number in ancient Egyptian lore, millenia before the NT was
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