Re: The YECs you have with you always

From: Michael Roberts (
Date: Sat Mar 29 2003 - 16:15:50 EST

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    I dont wish to say much about Glenn's piece.By using a sleight of hand in
    defining any who accept a late creation of man (c4000BC) as YEC he is able
    to makes lots of people YECs. By his definition I would like to add the
    following to his list of YECs from the 19th century; Lyell, Darwin,
    Sedgwick, Buckland, Henlsow, Herschell, Conybeare, Kelvin, Playfair and
    hundreds of others. His definition reduces his article to sheer farce and
    historical nonsense.

    I also politely request him to read carefully what I wrote. I have no doubt
    that there were some YEC in the 1860s but they were rare. The only written
    one I found was Newton in 1862 out of several hundred I read. But if I
    followed Glenn's definition of YEC then I can probably add another 20-30.

    Also he needs to judge all agianst a backcloth of what the range of
    geological opinion was on the age of the earth, geological times and
    especially the base of the Cambrian and the antiquity of man. If he did so
    he would realise just how false his argument is.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Glenn Morton" <>
    To: <>; "Jonathan Clarke" <>; "Michael
    Roberts" <>
    Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:09 PM
    Subject: The YECs you have with you always

    > I have just uploaded a new but very long piece on the battle between
    > and Christianity in the 19th century. It is at
    > It has been claimed that there was no such battle, that YEC was gone long
    > prior to 1860 and that Christians generally accepted geology. I have
    > collected a fairly large set of 19th century books, which show those
    > to be false and to give the wrong impression of what was going on. Books
    > this topic, with these views, are not hard to find. What I have gathered
    > have gathered over a 2 year period.
    > Anyway, I have 3 other books on their way to me and I will add their
    > as they come, so in a couple of weeks there should be 3 more authors.
    > Authors covered (in approximate chronological order) are:
    > Granville Penn
    > Robert Haldane
    > John Murray
    > Patrick MacFarlane
    > William Cockburn
    > Eleazar Lord
    > Thomas Hutton
    > Alexander Strachan
    > George Redford (eventually book on order)
    > George Rawlinson (eventually book on order
    > Philip Gosse
    > A couple of anonymous authors
    > Dr. Gordon
    > Abraham Mills
    > George Weber
    > W. Nicolson
    > Benjamin Wills Newton
    > Bourchier Wrey Savile
    > Louis Figuier
    > H. W. Bristow
    > Herbert W. Morris
    > Thomas Cooper
    > Joseph Seiss
    > Rev. W. B. Galloway
    > J. William Dawson
    > F. R. Wegg-Prosser
    > George Dickison
    > To almost all these guys, a recent creation (at least of mankind and most
    > often in 4000 BC), was an important aspect of their theology.
    > Any typos or other idiocies which are reported will be fixed.

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