Re: ID science (subtopic 1)

From: Howard J. Van Till (
Date: Thu Mar 20 2003 - 12:23:00 EST

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    Thanks for the interaction. With limited time let me comment only on one
    point. You say:

    > Having read Griffin's book several times, and also corresponded with him
    > several times, I see his "minimal naturalism" as an exact metaphysical
    > equivalent of my own pragmatic "methodological naturalism." In that sense, I
    > see the two claims as functionally equivalent.

    I take "methodological naturalism" to be the choice not to use supernatural
    action (coercive divine action) as an element in any scientific explanation.
    It does not explicitly deny the possibility of such action, but it excludes
    it from the arena science. In essence, it limits the methodology of science
    to include natural phenomena only.

    As I understand Griffin's definition of "minimal naturalism" it constitutes
    more than a choice to limit scientific explanations to natural causes only;
    it specifically denies even the possibility of supernatural action -- at any
    time, at any place. It is a fairly strong metaphysical statement that, as I
    see it, goes beyond methodological naturalism.


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