Re: Is the Hubbert curve a factor in the Bush Administrations rush to war with Iraq? (fwd)

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Sun Feb 23 2003 - 13:04:32 EST

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    I would suggest that the difference between Joel and Glenn is not a question of
    the Hubbert curve, but rather one of preconceived philosophies. It is just the
    same old liberal versus conservative outlooks (IMO) and has nothing to do with

    I personally never much cared for these "canned" political philosophies which do
    not think out all aspects and do not consider _all_ sides and consequences of an

    I came across an interesting website that proclaimed the following conservative (I
    think) outlook.

    Anyone have a corresponding liberal one? (Burgy?)

    > Differences between liberals and conservatives
    > by Clifford D. May, Scripps Howard News Service
    > Conservatives value freedom. Liberals value equality.
    > Liberals believe in aid. Conservatives believe in investment.
    > Conservatives believe government is the problem and people are the solution. Liberals believe people are the problem and government is the solution.
    > Liberals know conservatives are unfeeling. Conservatives know liberals are unthinking.
    > Conservatives want to save civilization. Liberals want to save wilderness.
    > Liberals believe there are political solutions to economic and moral problems. Conservatives believe there are economic and moral solutions to political problems.
    > Conservatives value individual responsibility. Liberals value social responsibility.
    > Liberals think illegal immigrants are exploited in America. Conservatives think illegal immigrants wouldn't keep coming here if the liberals were correct about what happens to them.
    > not in the original column
    > Conservatives believe in capital punishment but not abortion. Liberals believe in abortion but not capital punishment.
    > Liberals believe war is best averted by disarming. Conservatives believe war is best averted by preparing for war.
    > Conservatives think equal opportunity means best person wins. Liberals think equal opportunity means equal results.

     I'm a libertarian at heart and am happiest when the Government is figuring out
    ways to get out of my hair.

    Walt Hicks <>

    In any consistent theory, there must
    exist true but not provable statements.
    (Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
    If you have already found the truth
    without it. (G.K. Chesterton)

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