Re: personal revelations

From: Terry M. Gray (
Date: Thu Feb 20 2003 - 11:56:22 EST

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    The most convincing argument for me for the cessation of new word
    revelation is that put forth by Richard Gaffin in his Perspectives on
    Pentecost in the chapter on The Question of Cessation. This has been
    recently articulated in one of the Three (or Four) Views books
    published by Zondervan.

    It is not a proof-text based argument, but rather a
    redemptive-historical one that recognizes the uniqueness of the
    Christ event and the uniqueness of the apostolic witness to the
    Christ event and the foundational character of the early church
    apostles and prophets. The closest thing to a prooftext is in
    Ephesians 2 where Paul refers to the church being built on the
    foundations of the apostles and prophets. Thus, Acts and the early
    epistles are not normative in this regard--they are foundational and
    not to be repeated events much in the same way that Christ's death on
    the cross and resurrection is a foundational and not to be repeated
    event. There is indication that even by the time of the Timothy
    epistles, Jude, and 2 Peter of an appeal to the authority of the
    apostolic tradition (scripture) rather than to immediate revelations
    of the Spirit.

    I think that Don is mistaken when he says that all Christians accept
    "that Jesus' revelation was the culmination". It's mostly by way of
    lip service. TheJudeo-Christian message is primarily about what Jesus
    did in history to accomplish our salvation--it's not primarily about
    some subjective religious experience or knowledge. Much of
    Christendom is concerned about this subjective religious experience
    with little concern about what God actually accomplished in Christ
    2000 years ago.

    The Jesus told me (apart from the Word) piety of much of modern
    evangelicalism is equally suspect. That which unites traditional
    Roman Catholic theology/piety, Pentecostal and charismatic theology,
    and many non-Christian religions is religious experience. The
    emphasis on the objective, historical facts of the doing and dying
    and rising again of Jesus Christ distinguishes Biblical Christianity
    from all these things.

    Now, having fired my theological blast, I do want to remind us again
    of the purposes of this group. As a group we're not interested in
    general issues of theology (such as this one), or general issues in
    politics or social concerns, but the intersection of Christian faith
    (as outlined in the ASA statement of faith) and scientific concerns.


    Terry M. Gray, Ph.D., Computer Support Scientist
    Chemistry Department, Colorado State University
    Fort Collins, Colorado  80523
    phone: 970-491-7003 fax: 970-491-1801

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