From: George Murphy (email@example.com)
Date: Mon Dec 16 2002 - 21:41:51 EST
> In a message dated 12/16/02 12:47:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> firstname.lastname@example.org writes:
> > If Darwin wasn't talking about evolution in the _Origin_ then I'm not the
> > only one mistaken. I'm in the same boat with almost everyone else in the
> > world who knows anything about the book, including scientists specializing
> > in evolution and related fields.
> > As I've said, there are certainly references to some knowledge of
> > breeding in
> > Genesis but this is a far cry from selection being found throughout the
> > whole Bible.
> > Shalom,
> > George
> First of all, you're carrying me far afield from where we started. I said
> darwin was specifically talking about principles of selection being applied
> in genesis, and that is indeed exactly what he was talking about. You had
> said he was talking about evolution in the modern sense, but you didn't say
> what the modern sense was.
> I communicate with scientists regularly. I'm a member of the Human Behavior
> and Evolution Society and discuss these points on the hbe-l list, the
> evo-psych list (3,000+) scientists, and many other lists. last year on the
> h-antisemitism list at michigan state university I offered a theoretical
> control for Macdonald's trilogy on Judaism which was astonishingly well
> received by Kevin MacDonald, the evolutionary psychologist, himself.
> You ignored the quote from Paul Johnson. You ignored the data from the Bell
> Curve. Both quotes suggest that the genetic segregation is aimed at selecting
> for intelligence and that it is going on today.
> In order to breed for a specific trait, you have to segregate your
> population. Genetic segregation runs throughout the entire Bible.
> Ezra 9:2? What makes 'holy' seed? Nehemiah 13:28? Nehemiah 13:23-25?
> If you had taken a good look at the 3 generations from Jacob to Joseph's sons
> (begin Genesis 25) you would have seen that the rule is: regardless of
> birthright intelligence rises to rule. The allegory is perfect. If you read
> it, you can't miss it!
> I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to give you a gift. If I seem to
> be alone it is because I am in the new paradigm. The argument between
> religion and Darwinian evolution is over.
You began by asking what people on this list thought about
evolution & religion
& I gave my own brief answer. I agree with your last sentence but
not for your reasons.
Other than that I respectfully decline your gift.
George L. Murphy
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