From: Jim Eisele (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sun Dec 08 2002 - 04:36:52 EST
>> Hi Blake,
>(snipped some stuff about the Bible and evolution)
>> Blake, you are obviously very intelligent, and think
>> a "high" level. But even the most intelligent folks
>> rationalize away reality that they aren't prepared
>> to accept.
>> Nobody believed in evolution when the Bible was
>> Although I admire your tenacity, we have trouble
>> a starting point for discussion when we can't even
>> about this.
>In other words, you are right (even though before you
>were, by your current view completely wrong), you know
>that you are right and all other viewpoints are the
>result of wrong thinking, including wish fulfillment,
Show me a human who's never been wrong and I'll show
you a very arrogant person.
>Honestly, Jim, if you were so wrong before (twice
>before, by your count), how do you know you are so
>right now? Your current ardency doesn't inspire
>confidence in light of your past ardency for positions
>you now think totally wrong.
Do you expect humans to evolve back into apes? In light
of new information we all need to adjust our positions.
>The point of my question was to bring out the fact
>that you haven't really thought hard about your
>statements. What is "perfect" vs. "imperfect" about
>evolution? If you mean evolution is an "imperfect"
>process, by what standards would you measure it as
>imperfect? Isn't doing so merely anthropomorphizing
>wish fullfilment that you assume religion and
>religious people do?
If you think the world is imperfect then you know what
I mean by imperfect evolution. If I was in charge there
would be no diseases and enough food for everyone, for
While I'm writing, I'm curious how many of the NT miracles
you accept. I won't be offended if you consider that to be
too personal a question. With a few exceptions, I think
most of this list has accepted Gen 1-11 as mythology/exaggeration.
It's gotten a little boring to talk about.
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