From: Jim Eisele (email@example.com)
Date: Sat Dec 07 2002 - 14:22:06 EST
>> Science says
>> human suffering is a
>> result of imperfect evolution.
>This is radically new news to me. Could you please
>provide a citation to a refereed scientific journal,
>or even a college or high school biology text book?
>If this is an opinion you have reached on your own,
>please explain what constitutes perfect evolution. Do
>you understand evolution to be teleological? If so,
>how do you conclude that it is and what is the telos
>How does the imperfect achivement of the telos
>(whatever if may be) of evolution result in suffering?
No real news here. Just survival of the fittest or luckiest.
I imagine that my views about the concept of sin being the cause
of disease, suffering, and death are best kept to myself.
>> Note: you can't say "because the
>> Bible says so"
>> because you believe in evolution and the Bible
>> clearly does not.
>I am also amazed at this conclusion. Could you please
>point me to your source for this statement? We were
>trying to have a conversation off-list about this very
>topic, but you seemed to lose interest and did not get
>back to me. Perhaps we should try to take it up
Blake, you are obviously very intelligent, and think on
a "high" level. But even the most intelligent folks can
rationalize away reality that they aren't prepared to accept.
Nobody believed in evolution when the Bible was written.
Although I admire your tenacity, we have trouble finding
a starting point for discussion when we can't even agree
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