Re: George's reply to Howard

From: Terry M. Gray (
Date: Sat Dec 07 2002 - 01:37:29 EST

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    Here we go again, I guess.

    Well, to honest about the character of God involves recognizing that
    He is holy and we are not (and thus justly deserving of His wrath)
    and that he is free to execute His righteous judgment when and where
    He choses. Those who escape this wrath, do so by His mercy, which He
    is free to bestow on whomever He choses for whatever purpose He may
    have. As has been put by others much more eloquent than I, the
    mystery is not why God judges sinners, but why God is merciful toward

    God's judgment upon the Amelekites was perfectly just--their cup was full.

    Why is this so hard?!?


    >George, in replying to Howard, wrote: "The Bible presents a lot of
    >its heroes "warts & all" - Abraham trading his wife for his own
    >safety, Jacob the swindler, David the adulterer, &c. There is no
    >reason to claim that these behaviors are being approved. Israel is
    >simply being honest about who it is."
    >George - would you extend this argument to I Sam 15 also? This is the
    >passage where Samuel, claiming to speak for God, tells the Hebrews to
    >slaughter ALL the Amelekites, including the infants, and when Saul
    >does not QUITE obey, murdering the infants, it seems, but sparing the
    >Amelekite king and the livestock, Saul is punished by God.
    >Is the text "being honest" about the character of God -- or would you
    >offer another interpretation here (I hope so).

    Terry M. Gray, Ph.D., Computer Support Scientist
    Chemistry Department, Colorado State University
    Fort Collins, Colorado  80523
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