Date: Thu Dec 05 2002 - 12:00:47 EST
In a message dated 12/5/02 9:05:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org
> So when Israel recognizes in the story of its ancestor Jacob its own story,
> it sees that ambiguity - cleverness, the ability to outwit enemies &c, but
> the dishonesty to which those traits are easily applied. & in any case,
> I think that trying to connect this part of the Jacob cycle with the story
> about his breeding of sheep in order to say something about the
> intelligence of Ashkenazi Jews is quite forced.
You say when Israel recognizes - what is your reference in scripture? Who is
Israel? You say dishonesty - where is the moral judgment against cunning to
which you refer? or is it simply your interpretation?
You can characterize my interpretation as forced but my comments were correct
regarding the scriptural account and the behavior of today's ashkenazi Jewry,
and if not which of my remarks were incorrect? This is extremely important so
please be specific.
I didn't make the connection in the story. The connection is there. Jacob is
outraged by Laban's switching of leah for rachel. Jacob retaliates by
weakening laban's flocks and strengthening his own. Laban is his kin. What
other justification does genesis provide for Jacob's action?
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