RE: Traditional Xtianity teaches

From: Alexanian, Moorad (
Date: Wed Oct 09 2002 - 23:06:26 EDT

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    I believe Jesus statement is an indictment of mans claim of
    goodness and is another way of bringing in the fallen nature of man.

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Robert Schneider []
            Sent: Wed 10/9/2002 7:10 AM
            To:; Jan de Koning
            Subject: Re: Traditional Xtianity teaches

            When Jesus said to his disciples, "The poor you will always
    have with you,"
            I think he meant, "so always take care of them and do
    whatever you can to
            allieviate their condition," and not, as so many have read it
    in order to
            justify their doing nothing or opposing government efforts to relieve
            poverty, "well, too bad." Matt. 25:31ff is my "intertextual
    take" on what
            Jesus meant.

            Bob Schneider

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Jan de Koning" <>
            To: <>
            Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:31 AM
            Subject: Re: Traditional Xtianity teaches

    > At 11:19 PM 07/10/2002 -0600, Terry M. Gray wrote:
    > >As for the Jan's point about the poor...the political
    question is how
    > >do we best take care of the poor, via government programs
    or by other
    > >means, say charitable organizations and the church.
    Marvin Olasky is
    > >one political conservative (who does happen to be a conservative
    > >Presbyterian, but not of the "Left Behind" variety) who has given
    > >this a lot of thought. Burgy, are you familiar with any of his
    > >writings?
    > WE have to take care of the poor and not just expect the
    government to do
    > so. Yes, we should try to influence politicians to get
    the government to
    > do its part. However, with budget restraints operating
    the way they do,
    > the result is that those who have nothing and not voting, are often
    > disillusioned about all parties. Besides, how often have
    I not heard:
    > is their own fault. They should work" " we had a hard
    time too but we
    > found work as well." all easy ways to get out of our own
    > responsibilities. Besides, as long as the main purpose of
    a political
    > party appears to be taking care of the economy of a
    country, we will not
    > get anywhere with governmental institutions."
    > Jan de Koning

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