From: Glenn Morton (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Sep 04 2002 - 19:58:24 EDT
>One can almost always find a reference to support one point of view or
>The trouble with all of this is that you reference conflicting information.
In one of your last references in
>was shown that world's oil reserves are increasing, not decreasing , and
that they represented a several
>decades' supply. (Your story is that reserves don't count -- only
production. ) Either reserves are
>increasing or decreasing -- it can't be both ways.
>The data you referenced calls the oil reserves "usable", while you claim
that they are not.
No, I didn't claim they weren't usable. Listen carefully to what I
Who then are
>these idiots that publish such grossly misleading data and what is their
Walter, I explained this before. Oil is moved from non-reserve to reserves
when someone decides to develop the discovered oil. This may be many years
after the oil was discovered. Reserves increase but no new oil was
discovered at the point the decision was made to develop the reserves.
Secondly, what difference does it make if you have a gazillion barrels of
reserves if you can only get it out one barrel per day? You aren't rich
under those circumstances. You are very poor. Fields which take a long time
to be developed have something wrong with them. Often it is heavy oil. I
know right now where 60 million barrels of 8 degree API oil is. That won't
mean much to you and you will think it is great. The problem is that the
stuff won't flow and will plug up any pipeline you put it into. It is
discovered. We know about it, but it isn't reserves. If someday someone
decides to take a stab at developing this, they will have 60 million barrels
of reserves, but it will come out so slowly as not to make a significant
impact on the world's economy (or the oil operator's economy either). Try to
remember Walter, rate is more important than reserves. You forgot it again.
Here is a real example to try to get you to understand the issue. The
Orinoco Tar Belt is the largest deposit of petroleum on earth with over 3
trillion barrels of oil in place. You haven't heard of it because it is tar.
At current rates of world CONSUMPTION this represents a 111 year supply of
oil. But don't get excited. We can only recover a tiny fraction of it
which we call reserves. The rest isn't reserves because we can't get it to
market. Lets assume that 15% of that is recoverable oil(which is probably on
the high side). The Orinoco tar belt was discovered in the 19th century so
on the day that the Venezuelans decided to develop the field, no new oil was
discovered because it was discovered a century ago. But, at 15%
recoverable, they added 450 billion barrels to the world's oil reserves.
Right now, the Venezuelans are trying to get 400,000 barrels per day out of
it (146 million per year or 1/50th of what the US burns each year). Assuming
that is what they get it will take 3100 years to get all the recoverble oil
to market. THus, on the day they decided to develop the tar belt, they
added a huge quantity of reserves, but production is another issue and what
the world burns in their cars and trucks is PRODUCTION, not reserves!!!!!
Pay attention please and remember this. If you have to read it 3 times, then
In short, Oil discoveries are decreasing, reserves are increasing,
production rates are decreasing!
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