At 10:21 AM 31/05/02 +0000, Jim Eisele wrote:
> >Your interpretation is very dangerous, and has turned some young people I
> >know away from the church.
>Jan, I almost ignored your post. But, I simply will not tolerate
>statements like this unless you give me more specifics.
I have given specifics in the past and will only say now. As a teacher at
the university one of my tasks was (as every university teacher has) to
talk to incoming students. There I had every year to discuss with some the
perceived difference between, for example, biology or geology or . . .and
Gen.1. These were students from different kinds of Christian
churches. Many were at the point of leaving the church. Only by praying
and talking with them and explaining etc. did many stay.
As far as my answering your postings is concerned, I stopped several weeks
ago, but you keep talking as if every one who has not exactly your view on
Gen. 1 is not "conservative", and I take that to mean that they are taking
liberties with the interpretation of the bible. I resent that. I do not
call you a liberal, though I think that you take liberties with some other
texts in the bible in order to fit them in with your reading of Gen.1. Of
course, I cannot give names, as as a counsellor I cannot reveal their
names. Some left the church since someone else said that they were not
agreeing with God.
Those are all the specifics I can give. I must say, that my posting was
the result of your claiming exclusive rights to the term "conservative." I
gave in the past quotes from some well-known orthodox calvinists who
accepted the possibility of evolution by "conservative" Christians.
Jim, if you want to keep talking about this it is okay with me, but I will
not reply, but do not start placing people in categories. Several members
of the ASA are Christians in difficult positions both at their place of
work and in their church, because of what they believe.
BTW I still have not seen how you try to fit your reading of Gen.1 into a
reasonable orthodox reading of the rest of the Bible.
Jan de k.
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