Re: Randomness

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Tue May 28 2002 - 21:13:39 EDT

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    I stand corrected. However, I was speaking about the world as we see
    it today -- and not the world when we will all be united in faith.
    Often those of us on this list have the same notions ---- but then
    wind up "violently agreeing with each other".

    I think this is the situation ---- but maybe not

    I am just an engineer/scientist - not one of the astute theologians
    on this list. Get your theology from them -- not me. (But I shall
    have my own ideas, --- nonetheless.)



    Stuart d Kirkley wrote:

    > Walter,
    > If you read my post more carefully you will see that I said that
    >'when' man learns there can be no power opposed to God, then evil
    >and sin will cease (pp). Obviously this is conditional on man
    >learning this simple truth. Until then, we may see legions of
    >Hitlers and bin Ladens trying to insist that evil acts are
    > The logic is quite irrefutable, as an academic exercise, but it has
    >broad practical applications also. In essence, to suppose that there
    >is any other power than God, or good, can only be that, a
    >suppostition, if you allow that God is indeed omnipotent. If you act
    >on a suppostition, you are on shaky ground, perhaps the sandy soil
    >that Jesus talked about building upon. If you act on the other
    >premise, which you accept as the truth, then you are building on a
    >solid foundation, again, perhaps the rock Jesus talked about. If it
    >is the truth, then it is absolutely irrefutable, and it is a solid,
    >secure rock, or foundation. The difficulty lies in how one decides
    >this. That, I will leave up to you.
    > Sincerely,
    > Stuart Kirkley

    Walt Hicks <>

    In any consistent theory, there must
    exist true but not provable statements.
    (Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
    If you have already found the truth
    without it. (G.K. Chesterton)

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