Re: Randomness

From: Stuart d Kirkley (
Date: Tue May 28 2002 - 18:13:47 EDT

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    If you read my post more carefully you will see that I said that
    'when' man learns there can be no power opposed to God, then evil and
    sin will cease (pp). Obviously this is conditional on man learning
    this simple truth. Until then, we may see legions of Hitlers and bin
    Ladens trying to insist that evil acts are justifiable.
    The logic is quite irrefutable, as an academic exercise, but it has
    broad practical applications also. In essence, to suppose that there
    is any other power than God, or good, can only be that, a
    suppostition, if you allow that God is indeed omnipotent. If you act
    on a suppostition, you are on shaky ground, perhaps the sandy soil
    that Jesus talked about building upon. If you act on the other
    premise, which you accept as the truth, then you are building on a
    solid foundation, again, perhaps the rock Jesus talked about. If it
    is the truth, then it is absolutely irrefutable, and it is a solid,
    secure rock, or foundation. The difficulty lies in how one decides
    this. That, I will leave up to you.

    Stuart Kirkley


    On Mon, 27 May 2002 16:15:45 Walter Hicks wrote: >I am confused by your comment, Stuart. Speak to me about , say, Hitler. Was he >evil? Did God condone what he did? I am not trying to argue -- just trying to >understand what you attributing to God. > >Walt > > >Stuart d Kirkley wrote: > >> -- >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2002 06:04:06 >> Walter Hicks wrote: >> > >> >> >However, one >> >has to accept the fact that God allows us to have free will and >>to sin -- thus >> >allowing a lot of evil to exist in the world. >> >> Stuart Kirkley wrote: >> >> This premise is debatable, and can logically be demonstrated to be >>erroneous: >> If one acknowledges that God is omnipotent, all power, where does the >> power to act against His will come from? It can only come from the >> denial that God is omnipotent, or the dubious acknowledgement that >> there is another power apart from God, a simple error of bad logic, >> superstition and erroneous thinking, which, if affirmed, is a clear >> violation of the first commandment. When man learns that there truly >> is no other power than that of God, and lives in faithful obediance >> to the first commandment, then the error of believing that there is >> any other power will be seen as being invalid, and as that error is >> refuted, sin and evil will cease to have any claim of power also. >> >> 'I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have >> set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose >> life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (Deut 30:19) >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> Outgrown your current e-mail service? >> Get a 25MB Inbox, POP3 Access, No Ads and No Taglines with LYCOS MAIL PLUS. >> > > > >-- >=================================== >Walt Hicks <> > >In any consistent theory, there must >exist true but not provable statements. >(Godel's Theorem) > >You can only find the truth with logic >If you have already found the truth >without it. (G.K. Chesterton) >=================================== > > >

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