Re: Appearance of age from Re: My Daughter is a YEC

From: Wayne Shelton (
Date: Mon May 27 2002 - 22:44:31 EDT

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    It seems to me that God does not require effort to do anything. That is
    only a human trait. see Gen. 18:14. Reminds me of where the elephant
    would sit. Any where he wants. That's the way God operates. Why would
    not the most obvious way be the true way?
    Interested lurker.
    Wayne D.

    Walter Hicks wrote:

    > bivalve wrote in part:
    >> It still has the problem of why God would do things this way, as it
    >> seems simpler to me for Him to simply create things 15 billion years
    >> ago. However, we do not know why God does things the way He does.
    >> Also, I do not see Genesis 1 as requiring a recent creation, and thus
    >> do not feel compelled to assert that the acual age differs from the
    >> appearance.
    > I don't think that one has to be "compelled" to assert things either way.
    > The only point should be whether or not one can rule out either
    > viewpoint. I think that scientifically they are indistinguishable. Hence
    > one goes to other philosophical reasons like the "would God lie"
    > argument.
    > It minimizes God's talents to say that "because the universe is 15
    > billion years old (we think) then God must necessarily have created it 15
    > billion years ago". Surely 15 billion universe years involve more effort
    > that 10 thousand universe years even for God. To give us a science lesson
    > doesn't seem like a good reason to me. Rather, I would believe (and I do)
    > that God had more in mind than just man when he created the universe.
    > With billions of galaxies with billions of stars, it is difficult not to
    > conceive of more things going on than just mankind here on earth. The
    > Bible does not restrict God's actions to just mankind,. We certainly know
    > of the existence of some other beings (angels) and we know not what else
    > might be going on.
    > I think that it reasonable to think that God may have restricted His
    > creation to thousands of years -- but only if one believes that man is
    > the sole focus and the universe is " only to demonstrate the Glory of
    > God"..
    > IMHO
    > Walt
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    > Walt Hicks <>
    > In any consistent theory, there must
    > exist true but not provable statements.
    > (Godel's Theorem)
    > You can only find the truth with logic
    > If you have already found the truth
    > without it. (G.K. Chesterton)
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