Re: My Daughter is a YEC

From: Vernon Jenkins (
Date: Sat May 25 2002 - 17:40:03 EDT

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    You wrote in part:

    > The fundamental objection to apparent age, whether in its philosophical or
    > religious guise, is theological - it makes God the creator of an illusion or,
    > more pointedly, a hoax.

    In drawing attention to the 'water into wine' miracle, I believe Walt has
    refuted this charge. Indeed, it is clear that the outcome of many of the Lord's
    miracles involved an element of 'apparent age' - as, for example, the fragments
    bread gathered up following the feeding of the 5000, the healed limbs and their
    accompanying muscle tissue and tendons, the eyes of the once blind Bartimaeus,
    and so on.
    Were these miracles performed with deception in mind? Surely not
    (though we would

    have to admit that a pedantic analyst might be misled by them!). Would you
    not agree that, once one accepts the principle of miracle, then the possibility
    of 'apparent age'
    surely follows?

    What then of the miracle of creation? God has provided an account of the
    unfolding of this event along with a timescale. Thus He can hardly be
    accused of
    a deliberate deception if current observation and deduction (based on
    assumptions) lead men to conclude otherwise. Surely it has then become a matter
    of _self-deception_ fuelled by unbelief on their part.

    You continue:

    > The apparent age idea cannot be refuted scientifically. Neither can the idea
    > that any physical phenomenon we don't understand is brought about
    >by invisible
    > demons. But apparent age in a religious context is a counsel
    > of desperation and should be rejected by anyone who takes the doctrine of
    > creation seriously.

    George, I have argued that 'apparent age' is a necessary outcome of certain
    types of miracle - which include the miracle of creation. It is
    therefore hardly
    a 'counsel of desperation' for those of my persuasion, but rather a truth
    which is clearly demonstrated in the Scriptures and one that is - and
    ever will be - a thorn in the flesh for the Christian evolutionist.



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