Re: Randomness (was Re: Science Education and the Church)

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Thu May 23 2002 - 16:24:20 EDT

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    Loren Haarsma wrote:

    > Perhaps they are to be faulted for not knowing scripture.
    > (Proverbs 16:33, for example. "The lot is cast into the lap, but its
    > every decision is from the Lord.") People who believe the Bible, of
    > all people, should know that events which appear random from a human
    > perspective can be used by God to fulfill his purpose.

    I've seen that before (on an ASA website) and I think that it is a bit
    scary. If I take you literally, I should just toss a coin for my
    decisions knowing that nothing is random and God is in charge of the
    outcome of the coin flip.

    No Thanks :)

    > Consider the weather. All sorts of "purely random events" heavily
    > influence the weather, to the point where we humans cannot make
    > predictions about cloud cover or precipitation more than a few days in
    > advance. How many Christians would therefore conclude, based upon the
    > influence of random events in the weather, that
    > 1.) That God is capricious
    > 2.) There is no God involved
    > or 3.) Scientists are wrong about meteorology?

    Now that is a good point. Certainly better than citing scripture for
    casting lots. Also weather is a good example of how things are not
    random but are governed by physical laws. So it is with all of God's
    natural processes. The laws overpower randomness in all situations and I
    see no reason why biological phenomena should be any different .

    (Now watch George bring up QM again ;)


    Walt Hicks <>

    In any consistent theory, there must
    exist true but not provable statements.
    (Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
    If you have already found the truth
    without it. (G.K. Chesterton)

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