Re: Science Education and the Church

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Wed May 22 2002 - 08:31:58 EDT

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    Jan de Koning wrote:
    > At 02:27 PM 21/05/02 -0400, Walter Hicks wrote:
    > >I again quote what Morris has published:
    > >
    > >"The essence of evolution, of course, is randomness. The evolutionary
    > >process supposedly began with random particles and has continued by
    > >random aggregations of matter and then random mutations of
    > >genes."
    > Okay, again. "Randomness" is in the hands of God according to the
    > Bible. Nothing happens outside His will. That is why I completely reject
    > Morris's definition of evolution. Morris "seems" to think, that if you say
    > that something happens randomly, then it happens randomly. As Christians
    > we believe that no process whatsoever is happening randomly. Not even
    > gambling. That too is in the hands of our Lord, even though the gamblers
    > don't believe it. A Christian believes that nothing happens outside God's
    > will.
    > >If this is not the correct _scientific_ understanding of evolution, then
    > >where is it wrong? and if it is wrong, then should it not be corrected
    > >_scientifically_ (not theologically).
    > Where do Christians working in science use this "new" (for Christians)
    > definition? That non-Christians define concepts incorrectly is nothing
    > new. That happened in Paradise already.

    Please Jan! I asked a question. You ignore my question and pose another
    question. So I'll rephrase the question. What is _the_ correct statement
    of evolutionary theory? I have never seen anything other than what I
    quoted above. I am willing to be educated, but you should provide an
    answer, not another question.

    BTW I never said that I agree with the common definition of evolutionary
    theory. I do not.


    Walt Hicks <>

    In any consistent theory, there must
    exist true but not provable statements.
    (Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
    If you have already found the truth
    without it. (G.K. Chesterton)

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