From: Kamilla Ludwig (
Date: Thu May 16 2002 - 07:32:49 EDT

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    I seriously doubt I can "prove" the case against homosexuality to someone
    who has already accepted the pro-homosexual rhetoric (whether out of
    "Christian love" or not) and I won't even bother to try with those who
    characterize the blindingly obvious as an argument that is "weak to
    nonexistent". Nevertheless, the following sources provide a good basis
    for those interested in learning more about homosexuality, the homosexual
    lobby and the devastating physical and social consequences of accepting
    their demand to be embraced and celebrated.

    Your state's Public Health Department and Bureau of Vital Statistics
    should be able to provide you with the statistics regarding the relative
    life expectancies of homosexual men and the general male population.
    They should also be able to provide you with statistics about the greater
    incidence of mental illness, suicide, domestic violence, drug and alcohol
    abuse in the homosexual population.

    2 volumes edited by Christopher Wolfe
             "Homosexuality and American Public Life" and "Same Sex Matters"
    (In the second volume, Chapter 13, by Rabbi Barry Freundel Chapter 14 by
    Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz both give a better explanation of how to love
    the sinner while hating the sin than I have ever seen come from any
    Evangelical source)

    Thomas Schmidt
             "Straight and Narrow?"
    (Particularly pp. 116-122 on the health affects of sodomy, however it is
    defined. The book gives ample notes to original sources)

    Jeffrey Satinover
             "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth"
    (especially Chapter 10: The Unnatural Natural)

    Stanley Grenz
             "Welcoming But not Affirming"
    (the best Evangelical source on the subject I've found)

    And a few Scriptures:

    Genesis 2:18-24 ( we were designed to fit together as male and female)

    Genesis 19:4-8 (if we are to believe the revisionist account that the sin
    of Sodom was inhospitality, we must also accept some rather spectacular
    gymnastics with the verb "to know" changing meaning between verse 5 and
    verse 8.

    Romans 1:21-27 (God allows perversion to breed further perversion)

    I Corinthians 6:9-10 and I Timothy 1:10 (both passages refer to
    "arsenokoitai", literally meaning "men who bed men")

    And, just for you Shuan, Galatians 3:23-25 (I think you can figure that
    one out on your own)

    I'm not going to spend anymore time defending the obvious. When people
    who identify themselves as gay or lesbian embrace this identity they
    have made a choice to act on desires that are, by definition, disordered.
      The sexual activity they embrace is inherently dangerous and unhealthy.
    It is contrary to the telos, design, end and purpose of the human being
    to engage in sexual intimacy with a person of the same sex. Moorad
    started us off on that road by giving us one passage of Scripture. Human
    beings were designed as male and female to come together as one flesh.
    If that is something I must "prove", I have to admit I cannot. I cannot
    prove it anymore than I can prove that God exists. If that is a weakness
    on my part, then I celebrate that weakness!

    I Corinthians 10:13, II Corinthians 12:7-10,


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