At 09:52 AM 10/05/02 -0600, JW Burgeson wrote:
>Jan wrote: "However, I do think that it will be difficult, since some of
>the particip[ants in the discussions do not realize, that part of their
>life stays out of the other part of their life. That is a situation which
>I do not understand, but I realize it will
>take a lot of study for them to see it, and fo us (others) to show it."
>IOW, Jan, some of us do not have the spiritual insight that you do? Is
>this not a frequently found fundamentalist viewpoint? Is it not a
>particular type of hubris?
Maybe it is. If it is forgive me. However, I might point out that I have
consistently held that "all of life is religion", and that I am willing to
talk about that, but every time I try to do that, I hardly get any
responses. That may be for the same reason as you mention, but let me say
that I strongly believe that everything on this earth is created by God,
which means that everything falls under His rule. Also, in Gen.1 I read
clearly, that everything on earth is condemned because of man. In the NT I
read that everything will be renewed when Jesus comes back.
These things are often said by me, and I have indicated that, for me, these
things are basic. That does not mean that I accept everything which those
who I call "fundamentalist" believe about a literalist reading of the
Bible. So, thus you see again that a discussion here is often somewhat
fruitless, unless we discuss the backgrounds of our beliefs. I am a
Calvinist, yes, and I had at least a year's University course in what I
call here Calvinist philosophy, and at least two courses in the History of
Philosophy. I do confess that I forgot much of it, but not the
basics. What I said is based on that as well, but, understandably, like so
many things on this forum, misunderstandings abound.
>To the extent you had me in mind when you wrote that, I deny it
>categorically. All parts of my life are lived in the presence of my
>Savior. I do not claim perfection in this, but I do claim that intention.
Thank you, I am glad. So I must have talked about someone else. I do not
remember who I had you in mind or not. I remeber that I may have said it
in connection of talking about morality in teaching engineering courses. I
deny again, that any Christian can talk about morals without taking God's
laws into account, no matter what your background is. If that makes me a
"fundamentalist" so be it. However, I am quite well willing to accept
others who do not see it that way.
The funny thing is that I have been called "liberal" as well. It goes to
show that labelling someone does not serve any purpose.
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