Re: In Defence of my beliefs.doc

From: Vernon Jenkins (
Date: Thu May 09 2002 - 15:36:05 EDT

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    I'm not as impervious to reasoned argument as you suppose. In suggesting
    that I only believe what I want to believe you appear to be confusing
    _evidence_ (meaning the 'hard' stuff) with _particular interpretations_ of
    the evidence - often based upon unwritten assumptions that I am unable to

    As a case in point, I had occasion, just recently, to question Glenn
    regarding his web page dealing with the alleged fish>tetrapod transition. I
    accepted the fossil evidence as genuine but questioned his interpretation on
    the grounds, (a) that the progeny of the particular fish that first
    exhibited the tendency to convert must, inevitably (perhaps for a million or
    so years) be deficient in fin function with no compensatory advantage from
    leg and foot development; their survival, therefore, hardly reasonable -
    indeed, a great mystery, and (b) that because Darwin thought it _hardly
    likely_, and his co-worker, Wallace, _impossible_, that special creation
    might account for all the creatures whose fossilized remains are now held to
    represent an evolutionary series, these can hardly be considered logical
    reasons for ruling out the possibility. However, perhaps you have some
    observations of your own regarding these matters and would be prepared to
    share them with the forum.

    Finally, concerning 'evidence': none can be more certain than that which may
    be found on my website concerning the remarkable underwriting of the Bible's
    first verse. As far as I am aware, you are numbered among those who say "I
    don't believe it, and that's that". But this is real hard evidence, Wayne -
    not conjecture. Why won't you follow your own good advice and examine it?


    Vernon wrote:

    > Vernon Jenkins wrote:
    > > Like your YEC friends, I am unashamedly a 'Category A' man who
    > > regards the 'scoring of points' in this life as having little eternal
    > > merit. More reasonable, and far safer in my view, to accept God's
    > > Word as it has come down to us; certainly more assuring, and far less
    > > complicated
    > What you clearly say here is that you will only believe
    > what you want to believe, and it doesn't matter how much
    > "evidence" is offered to you. Why do you ask for this
    > evidence? Just say "the Bible says it, I believe it
    > and that's that" and be done with it? At least _then_
    > you are being honest with yourself and others.
    > it is only by Grace, and Grace alone that anyone proceeds,
    > Wayne

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