Re: Ratbots, human slavery and paranoiacs

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Tue May 07 2002 - 20:16:23 EDT

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    A very good subject indeed -- since it involves both modern science
    capabilities and Christian ethics.

    Much of the response, I think, may depend upon "Conservative" or
    "Liberal" values -- rather than upon "Christian ethics" I can see
    "conservatives" as agreeing for more testing to help humans in medical
    terms. I can also see "liberals" as arguing for sanctity of life in even
    laboratory animals.

    My guess is that it is rather ambiguous with respect to Christian values
    --- More "political" than moral. I wonder how others look upon this?


    Jan de Koning wrote:
    > At 11:41 AM 07/05/02 -0400, Walter Hicks wrote:
    > >Some of this can be really good also. I have a friend who suffered from
    > >Parkinson's and could not do a thing for himself. They implanted
    > >electrodes inside a specific area of his brain and hardwired controls to
    > >them. He can now adjust the controls to eliminate all the shaking and to
    > >allow him to walk normally.
    > >
    > >Controlling rats like that seems a bit cruel to me.
    > >
    > >Walt
    > So, there is a subject. How do you do the research to relieve the
    > suffering of Parkinson patients, and at the same time prevent that actions
    > of rats (later maybe people) are controlled. I believe that as scientists
    > we must be aware of the dangers, help each other when someone is forced to
    > do something against his conscience, and make sure that the power in
    > this type of research is not in the hand of companies, who are not
    > answerable to anyone about what they are doing. Must the patent- laws be
    > changed?
    > Jan

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