Re: Black Sea Flood

From: Walter Hicks (
Date: Sun May 05 2002 - 11:11:16 EDT

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    George, I really have to admire your chutzpah. Anything that I have to
    say about the Bible is called a "testimony" and comments about the Bible
    are ignored because they did "not touch upon your issues". What I
    believe about the Bible is just Wally Hicks' faith but what you believe
    about the Bible is theology of _the_ faith. WOW!

    I do know what theology is, George. I also know when I will not accept a
    particular theological viewpoint. They include YEC and those which
    incorporates what the rest of the world would call a "myth". By your
    definition Enuma Elish, the Creation of man by Prometheus plus various
    India, Mayan, etc. stories of creation are not myths; they the theology
    of that corresponding faith.

    I've been involved in my long life in Roman Catholic, Nazarene,
    Presbyterian, Methodist and Non-Denominational churches. It was
    dominantly as a layman but I see no way that _your_ faith could be
    described as _the_ faith in those churches.

    I give to you the following: "a usually told story of ostensibly
    historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a
    people or explain a practice a belief or a natural phenomena." That is
    what you have described Genesis 1-11 as being and you called it
    "theology". That is also the Merriam Webster Dictionary's definition of
    a "myth".



    george murphy wrote:
    > Thank you for your personal testimony which, however, does not
    > really touch upon the issue that I raised. In fact, your closing sentence
    > makes me wonder if you even realize what that issue was.
    > & your penultimate paragraph makes it clear that you still see no difference
    > between "theology" (which includes but is not limited to refelection upon
    > historical events) & "myth."
    > Theology is thinking about the faith - note that I say "the" faith,
    > not simply "your" faith because it is not simply a personal exercise. The
    > writers of Genesis were thinking about & writing down, under the Spirit's
    > guidance, the faith of Israel. Our task is to think about the Christian
    > faith, making use of the heritage of >3500 years of refelection of people
    > like them but not being limited to their categories. We are called, among
    > other things, to take very seriously what they wrote but also to be aware of
    > the quite different setting in which they wrote.
    > If we're using our brains at all we don't really have a choice about
    > whether or not be do theology, only of the quality & integrity of that
    > theology. Considering theology as an activity of pointy headed perfessers &
    > dismissing it as "foo" in favor of the ideas of just us simple will not
    > enhance the quality of one's theological reflection.
    > Shalom,
    > George
    > George L. Murphy
    > "The Science-Theology Interface"

    Walt Hicks <>

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