You seem to have taken offence at reading my email. For this offence I totally
apologise. I completely disassociate myself from the tone of the quote from
Humphreys. My reaction to it is the same as yours. In retrospect perhaps I
should have placed a warning "offensive comments" in the title. My sole
objective here is to find the original circumstances of the post so that I can
show my friend from church how over the top it is an innappropiate as a means
to try an win someone to YEC. I know both Steve and Glenn electronically and
have seen how they debate, I know it is highly unlikely they would act in
anyway deserving of such a diatribe.
Jan de Koning wrote:
> At 05:08 PM 22/02/02 +1100, Jonathan Clarke wrote:
> >Hi all
> >I started this discussion on acg-1 which I run from my work computer but
> >as it is the weekend and I won't be at it until Monday I will continue
> >it here.
> That is quite a weekend, more than I got when I was still working.
> >Part of it says:
> >"An anticreationist
> I object to this way of calling people names. I believe that God created
> the universe, though I probably disagree with many people about the way God
> did it.
> I do not know about magnetic fields, at least not enough to talk about it,
> so I skip it.
> >He justly deserves any embarrassment he may get from this incident.
> That is NOT a Christian attitude.
> > Although Morton says he is still a Christian,
> That is not up to you to decide.
> >Calvin college (in Grand
> >Rapids, Michigan) has been a center of anticreationism for several
> >decades, being the home
> >territory of such worthies as Howard Van Til, Davis A. Young, and
> >Clarence Menninga. Though
> >still nominally a Christian college, many of its faculty seem to have
> >slid very far down and away
> >from its original principles.
> Why nominally? Who is a Christian? When is a college a Christian
> College? I object to the way you are wording your disagreements, even
> when you are right about being slighted. I cannot judge that.
> I am a supporter of Calvin College, and I would like to know when it became
> "nominally a Christian College, many of its faculty seem to have slid very
> far down and away from its original principles" ? Do you know what its
> original principles are?
> > As an
> >experiment, I appealed to Christian ethics.
> >His response? He ignored my request and challenged me to debate him on
> >other technical issues.
> >He showed not a shred of shame about relaying bad scholarship and
> >wrongly accusing creationists
> >of dishonesty. I wrote back that I was not at all interested in debating
> >him, because I was so
> >disgusted with his hypocrisy that I didn't want anything more to do with
> So you are as guilty as he was, if I understand your wording correctly.
> Generally speaking, I do not appreciate reading postings like Jonathan's at
> all. I do not know his thinking, I know that some people he accuses do
> believe that God created everything, the earth, the stars and everything
> there is. I also know that man fell in sin, and that all of us are now
> sinners. Even more that all of our doing and thinking is affected by our
> sins. Still, we should accept all who say that they are Christians, and
> point out maybe where they went wrong. But that pointing out should not be
> done on a public forum.
> Jan de Koning
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