Re: Glenn makes front page of AiG today

From: Michael Roberts (
Date: Sun Feb 10 2002 - 15:32:29 EST

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    Several in your list are most definitely NOT young earthers.

    I have a copy of Thomas Cooper, Evolution, The Stone Book and the Mosaic
    Record of Creation, 1884.
    HE IS NOT YEC and takes a long day view of Genesis - p129-31 in my edition
    of 1888.

    Figuier is not YEC either and accepted a local deluge.

    If this is your evidence then please read your books carefully and not
    misread them.

    This kind of inaccuracy completely undermines everything you say. You can
    have any contention you wish but if it is based on inaccuracy it goes the
    way of Thomas Barnes alternative physics.

    YECs became very rare after 1855 and slowly increased especially in the
    USAafter 1900 and had a population explosion after 1961 and the Genesis

    Take MORE care


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Glenn Morton" <>
    To: "george murphy" <>; "John W Burgeson"
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    Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:36 PM
    Subject: RE: Glenn makes front page of AiG today

    > Hi George,
    > >-----Original Message-----
    > >From: []On
    > >Behalf Of george murphy
    > >Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:54 AM
    > .
    > >
    > > Whether or not Christian fundamentalism will eventually die is to
    > >large a topic to be taken on here.
    > This is one reason I have been collecting and reading creationist books
    > the 19th century. Contrary to claims often made that the YEC's disappeared
    > in the 19th century, they didn't, either in England or in the US. They
    > not have held leadership positions in the church (or at least high
    > leadership positions) but the laity was buying lots of books with
    > young-earth leanings and teachings. Currently I have in my personal
    > books from the following 19th century young-earth/global flood advocates:
    > Granville Penn, Mineral and Mosaic Geologies, 1825
    > Granville Penn, Conversations on Geology, 1840
    > John Murray, Truth of Revelation, 1840
    > James Monroe, Evidences and Facts of the Scriptural Deluge, 1843
    > Rev. Alexander Strachan, The Antiquity, Literal Meaning and Authenticity
    > the Mosaic Narrative, c. 1852
    > Anonymous, The Creation and the Deluge, 1854
    > Herbert W. Morris, Science and the Bible, 1871
    > Louis Figuier, The World Before the Deluge, 1872 [published from 1863 to
    > 1891]
    > Abraham Mills, The Ancient Hebrews, 1874
    > Thomas Cooper, Evolution, The Stone Book and the Mosaic Record of
    > 1884
    > Isaac Newton Vail, The Earth's Annular System [published 1884-1912]
    > I can name lots more that I don't have.
    > I also have an 1859 Boston-published college history book which begins
    > the Biblical creation and includes the Noachian Flood. It is George Weber,
    > Outlines of Universal History from the Creation of the World to the
    > Time. This was originally a German book translated into English.
    > My contention is that the YECs didn't disappear and my evidence is that
    > somebody was buying those books throughout the 19th century.
    > Because of this, I can easily conclude, that like the poor, the YEC will
    > always be with us.
    > glenn
    > see
    > for lots of creation/evolution information
    > anthropology/geology/paleontology/theology\
    > personal stories of struggle

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