RE: Redheads descended from Neanderthals?

From: Woodward Norm Civ WRALC/TIEDM (
Date: Wed Jan 30 2002 - 18:44:59 EST

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    As another (relative) newcomer, I am somewhat confused by the consternation
    by some about humans having somehow connected to Neanderthals. If I was a
    Fundie preacher, I would welcome an explanation of those "sons of God" and
    Nephilim found in Chapter 6 of Genesis, and their descendants mentioned at
    the end of Numbers 14. (No, don't ask me how they survived the Flood...)

    Also, as an OEC, I am intrigue that one can accept evolution, which was
    John's first premise, then balk at the thought of the evolution of
    humans-in-the-image-of-God, or of the existence of a "Soul."

    For myself, if Neanderthals worshiped a higher being, that makes them human
    enough for me.

    To paraphrase Twain: Man is the only animal that prays. Or needs to.

    Norm Woodward
    Warner Robins Georgia
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    From: Richard Kouchoo []
    Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:20 PM
    Subject: Re: Redheads descended from Neanderthals?


    I am a newcomer here (actually I've been here a few times in the past) and
    been following a few discussion threads quite intently.

    I found John Burgeson's take on the creation of soul very interesting:

    _Perhaps, just perhaps, the creation of
    humans-in-the-image-of-God did not take place as an event -- but as a
    process. If one allows that it may be a process, rather than an
    event-at-a-moment-of-time, then that process may well have started prior
    to both Neanderthal and Homo-sapiens_

    However I have an objection to this line of reasoning since its implications
    not very comforting. The special, instantaneous creation of the soul is
    absolutely necessary, doctrinally speaking. Without it, Christ's death and
    resurrection are pointless, since the meaning of sin and specifically,
    sin, as Christian tradition has envisaged it for the past two millennia,
    redundant. 'A process' of original sin is completely alien to Christian
    and Tielhard's ideas are more in line with patheism than Christianity.

    My two cents.

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