Re: P.J. Bowler book

From: Jack Haas (
Date: Tue Jan 15 2002 - 04:33:04 EST

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    Your assertion that Bowler's 'main intent was to deal with liberal theology
    and non-materialistic science' is a bit off the mark. There was little
    evangelical thinking to cite viz. Oliver Barclay (Whatever Happened to the
    Jesus Lane Lot (or something like that) and Michael Roberts.

    When an evangelical appeared after WWII - C. A. Coulson - Bowler gives him a
    thumbs up (p. 415ff). John Brooke kept an eye on the manuscript which I
    think would keep the discussion evenhanded.

    Jack Haas

    -------Original Message-------

    Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 01:55:12
    Subject: Re: P.J. Bowler book

    Bowler does briefly mention the Victoria Institute, but mostly in the
    of anti-evolution activists. He does deal with evangelicals to a certain
    degree, but keep in mind that his main intent is to deal with liberal
    theology and non-materialist science. So evangelicals are necessarily
    treated in a more abbreviated form.

    BTW, I've never seen the Victoria Institute treated as anything but a hotbed

    of anti-evolutionists (even by evangelical authors). Was it anything more?

    Karl V. Evans

    In a message dated 1/12/02 4:42:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, writes:

    << From 1900 to 1950 Conservative Evangelicals were thin on the ground.
    the Church of England their strength may be indicated by out of 30m
    seminaries, 3 were conservative evangelical , 5 or 6 were liberalish
    evangelical and the rest high church (dominant) or central to modernist ( a

    close second). In fact in these decades a lot of donkey work was done
    especially on the mission field and IVF which gave a foundation for the

    Did Bowler deal with the Victoria Institute an evangelical science and
    religion group?

    I think Bowler is echoing the dominant view of church historians who often
    simply ignore evangelicals as of no consequence. Or at least they could
    until 1990 when it was clear that evangelicals form the dominant group
    within the Cof E, but have a range of opinion from mildly liberal to fairly
    conservative. My observation is that what would be seen as a conservative
    evangelical in England would be somewhat iffy and liberal across the pond.
    For example most Anglcian evangelicals would not subscribe to inerrancy and
    of the clergy probably 5% are creationist


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