Re: Draper and White

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. (
Date: Mon Jan 14 2002 - 14:52:02 EST

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    I would add to Michael's list David N. Livingstone, Darwin's Forgotten
    Defenders: The Encounter Between Evangelical Theology and Evolutionary
    Thought (Eerdmans/Scottish Academic Press, 1987) and James R. Moore, The
    Post-Darwinian Controversies: A study of the Protestant struggle to come
    to terms with Darwin in Great Britain and America, 1870-1900 (Cambridge,

    On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:43:56 -0000 "Michael Roberts"
    <> writes:
    I bet Ted Davies will beat me to this. Apparently he has a copy of White
    under his pillow!

    Try these

    Lindberg and Numbers God and Nature Univ of Calif Press 1985

    J H Brooke Science and Religion, some historical perspectives Cam univ
    press 1991

    JH Brooke and G Cantor Reconstructing Nature T & T clark 1999

    P Marston and R Forster Reason Science and Faith (on website - search )

    Denys Alexander Rebuilding the Matrix Lion 2001

    Try that for starters


    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 4:44 PM
    Subject: Draper and White

    Back in the late 1800s, as has been mentioned in some recent discussion
    here, there were a couple of books by Draper and White that advanced the
    "warfare" model between science and Christianity. Those on this list who
    seem to know what they are talking about say that both books are
    distorted and unreliable, and I see allusions to that judgment in other
    books such as Barbour's tome.

    My question is whether there is some book, preferably by a reputable
    academic scholar, that the history experts on this list could recommend
    for pointing out at length the shortcomings of these 2 books?

    Dr. Allan H. Harvey, Boulder, Colorado |
    "Any opinions expressed here are mine, and should not be
    attributed to my employer, my wife, or my cats"

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