Re: P.J. Bowler book

Date: Fri Jan 11 2002 - 20:17:59 EST

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    I simply am not familiar enough with the situation in Britain to defend point
    #3, but that is what Bowler says. However, in my attempt to be concise I
    probably gave the impression that 3 was as important as 1,2, and 4. It was
    not. Apparently a Free Church and Anglican evangelical opposition did exist,
    but it's effect at the time was minimal.

    Karl V. Evans

    In a message dated 1/11/02 4:14:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time, writes:

    << Thanks Karl for your comments
     You wrote;
     Bowler deals with the
    > reconciliation of science and religion as expressed by liberal Anglicans
    > (Modernists) and non-materialist scientists. The reconciliation is
    > dependent on the thesis that both these groups shared a faith in Progress.
    > This faith, and the 'second age' of sci/rel dialogue (we're in the third)
    > survived World War I but ended for several reasons: 1) the rise of
    > 2) the Depression and related suffering, 3) evangelical voices from the
    > churches, and 4) the rise of Barthian neo-orthodoxy with its disdain for
    > natural theology.
     I would agree with reasons 1,2 and 4 , but 3 is wrong as in Britain the
     resurgence of evangelicals came dominantly from Church of England
     evangelicals of the post war generation e.g. JRWStott and also the whole
     cluster of people including non-Anglicans as FFBRuce, Martin Lloyd Jones
     etc.From 1900 to 1950 there was a rump of evangelicals in the Cof E whose
     effortw bore fruit after the war. (There werent many evangelicals in the
     Anglican Church in Wales as the Welsh Bishops did not like evangelicals and
     forced them out after Disestablishment in 1920. One of my bishops while I
     was in Wales asked me how I could be associated with Evangelicals as I was a
     scientist and didnt take the bible literally and another asked if I actually
     believed Pauls Letter to Romans, that was in 1995 and 2000.The numbers of
     evangelicals in the Church in wales is increasing mostly by attracting
     clergy from England as wooly liberal theology doesnt attact potential
     clergy!) There is a false perceptons that Evangelicals are largely to be
     found in the Free Churches whereas from 1730 about half of British
     evangelicals have been Anglican. It has to be said that only a small
     minority Cof E evangelicals
     tend to YEC though this does mean that 5% of Cof E clergy lean to YEC.

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