Re: Science of the Gaps (Re: God acting in creation #4+++)

From: george murphy (
Date: Mon Dec 24 2001 - 07:59:00 EST

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    Walter Hicks wrote:

    > george murphy wrote:
    >> Walter Hicks wrote:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I've never heard a good rebuttal to Wigner's claim.
    >> I have a good deal of sympathy with Wigner's argument,
    >> though it
    >> is certainly a minority one among physicists. It should be noted,
    >> however, that there is nothing inherently "religious" about human
    >> consciousness. This doesn't mean that the idea is of no
    >> significance
    >> for theology, for it suggests a way in God, through the Incarnation,
    >> is
    >> involved in the collapse of wave packets and thus with the
    >> realization
    >> of one out of many quantum possibilities for the universe.
    > My dissertation advisor hated Wigner's proposal -- but he could not
    > cite any refutation of the physical logic. Do you know of any?
    > I still know of no good rebuttal.

    One argument (expressed, e.g., by Polkinghorne in Serious Talk,
    pp.28-29) is that the universe existed before conscious life evolved. I
    don't think this is a fatal objection beecause quantum entanglement can
    connect subsystems at different times as well as at different spatial
    locations. I discussed this a bit (primarily from a theological
    standpoint) in "Does the Trinity Play Dice?" in the March 1999 PSCF.
    (Like the other article I mentioned earlier, this can also be accessed
    through the ASA website.)

    George L. Murphy
    "The Science-Theology Interface"

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