RE: Evolution Statement - Did you say "fact"

From: Mark Plain (
Date: Fri Dec 07 2001 - 10:32:48 EST

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    There is no evidence to rule out the possibility that the Universe is
    If the Universe is infinite then all our collective human "knowledge" is
    infinitesimal relative to that infinity.
    Therefore we might be DROWNING in uncertainties.
    As long as we might be DROWNING in uncertainties, there is no way for us to
    determine the
    probability of us DROWNING in uncertainties.
    We simple don't know how much we don't know.

    So for us to extrapolate anything on to a possible infinite universe from
    the vantage point of an
    infinitesimal insight is the height of arrogance.

    Since science might have an infinite number of revisions, why hang your soul
    on the current version ?

    What canít the universe start with ?

    I pity the poor God that is limited by your imagination.

    I wish scientist's would stick to their own knitting...the practical realm,
    where they can round off all the infinities they want.

    Leave the big answers to the philosophers.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: []On
    Behalf Of James Taggart
    Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 7:09 AM
    To: Moorad Alexanian; John W Burgeson;
    Subject: RE: Evolution Statement

    Evolutionary theory, as it is practices is a forensic science. It
    could, in theory, be tested as a scientific process by taking a 'target'
    life form, dividing it into two (or more) breeding colonies that can't
    intermix, and wait to see what happens. It is likely that you'd have to
    study the beings for a long time, but if you had genetic records of each
    generation then you could record evolution as fact.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Moorad Alexanian []
    Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:53 AM
    To: John W Burgeson;
    Subject: Re: Evolution Statement

    I looked over the review that you wrote and it seems to me that the fact
    that Casti gives quantum mechanics a "D" in explanation and an "A" in
    prediction tells me much of what Casti means by the word explanation.
    Nature is rather complicated and the attempt of quantum mechanics to
    describe it is quite successful. One ought not to demand the kind of
    explanations one feels comfortable with but instead find the one that
    may be imposing on us. If one has not a well defined meaning of what
    is, then it is quite easy to confuse science with human reasoning. I
    often said that the subject matter of science is data collected by
    devices. The human mind makes inferences from that data to develop
    Evolutionary theory is forensic science and as such can never say that
    evolution is a fact. Let us not turn the hypothesis of the
    into a fact---that is not only bad logic but also a deception!!!

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