Re: What does the creation lack?

Date: Sat Oct 27 2001 - 07:44:05 EDT

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    In a message dated 10/25/01 7:48:42 PM, writes:

    << A creature is any member of the creation (created universe). A such, a
    creature could be anything from an elementary particle (as a high energy
    physicist would use that term) to an atom, molecule, rock, planet, galaxy,
    living cell, organism, etc.

    A system may be defined as "an assemblage or combination of things or parts
    forming a complex or unitary whole." >>


    Do you consider the sequence of "creatures" you listed to be a continuum? Or
    do you accept a discontinuity between "galaxy" and "living cell" in your
    list? If it is a continuum, then there is probably no "lack" in creation.
    If there are discontinuities, then one might expect to find what you call a

    I believe there is a discontinuity at the point of the origin of the first
    cell. I think this because I do not find any scientific evidence or other
    reason to believe that the laws of physics and chemistry, which account for
    the universe up to the point of the origin of life, can account for that

    As you probably know, I object to the use of the word, "lack", because it is
    negative and pejorative. You may not think so, but immediately puts one on
    the defensive.

    The question I would rather have you ask is, "What does *my view* of creation
    lack?" So let me ask it.

    I think your view lacks the possibility that creation is a *staged process*
    that it went through a series of developmental phases, that each stage had
    its own intrinsic potentiality, and when that was played out it set the stage
    for the next phase of development. A new extra-natural creativity would be
    added at this point to initiate a new more advanced stage.

    Thus when all the potentiality of the pre-biotiic universe was exhausted it
    provided just the right conditions, in the universe and on planet Earth, for
    God to initiate the next stage, that is, for life to arise on earth, by
    adding something to the laws of physics and chemistry that had not been there

    Thus I believe the entire history of the universe can be described as having
    been staged or phased. This view includes both continuity within each stage,
    and over the entire sequence of the stages on the one hand, and discontinuity
    between stages on the other.

    I see no compelling theological or scientific reason at this time to rule out
    the concept of a staged creation. This view is friendly to the idea of both
    continuity and discontinuity in creation. A staged creation lacks nothing;
    that is the way God created it from the beginning.

    That's how I see it. Hope it helps.



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